Scheduling Approach Alternatives #322
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Option 1 - This approach focuses on getting as much possible done at the same time, in stages. It prioritizes maturing Foundational and Normative content.Phase 1 (2027)
Phase 2 (2029)
Phase 3 (2030)
Phase 4 (2031)
Phase 5 (2033 and onward)
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Option 2 - This approach prioritizes reaching similar coverage to WCAG 2.2 AAA and providing an opportunity for public feedback before fully maturing content. It then builds off that work.Phase 1 (2027)
Phase 2 (2029)
Phase 3 (2031 and onward)
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I don't think either option is acceptable. Option 1 means WCAG 3.0 won't get to recommendation until at least 2031, and option 2 means we'll have a rec by 2029, but it will pretty much just be WCAG 2. All the new things people have been hoping we'd do in WCAG 3.0 still won't be released until well into the 2030s. AGWG needs to figure out how to deliver WCAG 3.0 incrementally. Figure out which proposed solutions are most impactful and urgent, and spend the next charter getting that work into a recommendation. In the group should continue to work on things for its next charter. That way people would start to benefit from this work much sooner. |
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Option 3 - Incremental ApproachThis approach starts from WCAG 2.2 and incrementally addresses items issue by issue through notes, changes to groups of guidelines, limited sets of assertions, conformance updates, or other small bounded changes. Notes
Examples of small bounded changes
Phase 1 (2027)
Phase 2 (2029) and onward
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There is so much bias in wcag 2. The only reason to not to strongly object to any legislation that references it is because we are working as fast as we can on WCAG 3. And Wcag 3 is designed to undo the organization discrimination in WCAG 2. |
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I cant help noticing that some of these proposals are good for the business models of many of the organisations in AG and not helpful for the disabled user who are under supported in wcag 2. |
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I might have missed some points and this cannot be an Option, but this is another possible plan I had in mind. Option X: WCAG 2.2 into WCAG 3 format
Phase 1 (2025-2027)Target 1: WCAG 2.2 A & AA
Phase 2 (2027-2029)Target 2-1: WCAG 2.2 A & AA
Target 2-2: WCAG 2.2 AAA
Target 2-3: New requirements (Not in WCAG 2.2)
Phase 3 (2029-2031)Target 3-1: WCAG 2.2 AAA
Target 3-2: New requirements (Not in WCAG 2.2)
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@alastc I followed your hint and read through text appearance. I admit I struggle to see how this aggregation of numerous independent but also intersecting requirements could ever become one (or a small set of) testable outcome(s). See, for example, the decision tree where you find the step
must? So clearly testable whether it does? So I check the glossary and find, in the definition of "user-manipulable text":
...folllowed by no less than 11 possible attributes! With so much variability at play, how is a user of the standard ever going to decide whether text can be considered "user-manipulable"? (is that even a word?) So to put in my 2 cents, my gut feeling is that a 1:1 transposition as a first step in WCAG 3 might be a useful step. So I would tentatively support @MakotoUeki's suggestion. As to more fine-grained, foundational / supplemental requirements: This is not so different from AA /AAA and sufficient vs. advisory techniques that it could not be added to each transposed requirement. Many things in 2.2 are basically fine and just need tweaks (like „down to 320px“ in 1.4.10) rather than the melting pot treatment. And things that are new / to be added (like readability beyond size/contrast) could then be put to the test - is it reliably testable, or is it likely to remain a best practice recommendation? After a first transposition we could then earmark those SCs that should be merged because they became independent SCs for historic reasons (like 1.4.10 reflow ursurping the resize part of AAA SC 1.4.8). I think it will be less work, because we will much more quickly arrive at a structure that provisionally holds together and gives us some leverage. |
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I am of the opinion that regulatory uptake (e.g., EN 301 549, 508, ADA) is determined by factors which are indifferent to WCAG versioning. I think mature parts of the contents will be incorporated into design systems and testing tools because that provides competitive advantage. On a recent call, @goodwitch mentioned that aspirational assertions, such as usability testing, can have a noticeable impact to business. From the 2013 ACAA final rule Summary of Major Provisions
This is is codified at 14 CFR 382.43(c)(2):
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Summary 23 June 2025We discussed Options 1-3 at the 17 June 2025 Meeting. Based on discussions on this list, we've updated slides to capture additional suggested options for discussion on 24 June 2025. These are also listed below with links to the relevant comments. Option 3 DiscussionWilco clarified that option 3 does not start from WCAG 2.x. Instead, “I’m suggesting is we write WCAG 3 incrementally. We focus on the outcomes, assertions, and conformance questions that can have the most impact, and publish that as a recommendation by the end of the next charter. Because we want to publish a "full" recommendation, we'll need to include parts of WCAG 2 that aren't covered by the new content. We'd need to spend some time figuring out how to do that…. The difference between option 3 and option 1 & 2 is that we'd use existing WCAG 2 content until we have the WCAG 3 part of it ready.” Option 4 Topic centeredI suggest to slice topic-wise. Agree which topics we finalize first, getting the outcomes together, defining the fundamental and supplementary outcomes and then putting together all material, prioritizing the fundamentals. This way, we on one hand can crosscheck the fundamental-to-supplementary approach while doing it on a specific scope, on the other hand we can easily work in what we did during the recent past. Option 5 WCAG 2.2 into WCAG 3 Format)Starts Phase 1 with WCAG 2.2 SC at Level A and AA so that the existing WCAG 2.2 SC is available in the WCAG 3 format as soon as possible. Focuses on web content at the first Phase for each Target, and then adds non-web content at the following Phase. Each Target/Scope will be completed with Mature by the end of each Phase. |
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Hi All, Hopefully a slightly different and useful perspective. My work is in the trenches so to speak, working with lots of orgs big and small to build accessible things. I don’t think any of my clients care much about the version number or name of the document. Beyond anything they need something that is easier to digest and use, even if it’s partial… for the gaps it doesn’t cover, they can go look at WCAG 2.x. With that in mind, i suppose a path where WCAG 3.0 is incremental. Starting small and growing often (maybe yearly?) and for anything not covered in WCAG 3, then the user is directed to WCAG 2.x… but the WCAG 2.x items are not part of the new document itself. At some point WCAG 3 then covers enough to replace WCAG 2.x. Hope this is a useful suggestion. |
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I am sorry to dive into this conversation so late, but I see in these discussions that some of the work of the Publications sub-group is missing, and I think some of what we discussed is worth exploration as well. We seem to be making three assumptions about the development of WCAG3 that I think may be what is steering us wrong:
In the publication sub-group, we explored a lot of different ideas for how to progress with WCAG3, and one that kept coming up was to move to a module-based publication model, where we would focus on and publish focused "modules" that would include requirements for specific accessibility topics like forms, motion, multimedia, etc. There were pros and cons, which I'll share here:
I think all of the cons can be overcome with strong editorial leadership. The pros will be significant, and we can get feedback and new specs into the hands of the community far faster. People can choose how they integrate and interact with the modules, but we can make a positive impact. |
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Summary of 24 June MeetingThe group discussed different options for approaching the rest of WCAG 3 along with pros and cons. A few key notes:
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Below we have two possible approaches to finishing out WCAG 3. (previous presentation) Please review these and consider tradeoffs such as:
For either approach, we could stand up task forces to create notes for content that can be pulled out of WCAG 3 and stand on it’s own. The two candidates from previous conversations are the assertions and color contrast guidance.
The purpose of this discussion is to get a sense of support for each of these approaches and capture additional possible approaches.
To make this a bit easier, we have included draft dates. Please note that all dates are still tentative.
Please:
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