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In this PR, we propose to add practical tips for downsampling. For now this includes, a guideline on how to choose the downsampling interval. And then specifically for ILM, an explanation on how downsampling relates with tiers. After elastic/elasticsearch#135834, we should also add here the option to disable force merge.

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kkrik-es commented Oct 6, 2025

Can we wait for Marci to submit her update, then port these tips to the new structure?

## Practical tips

Downsampling requires reading and indexing the contents of a backing index. The following guidelines can help you get the most out of it.

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Do we need a note about rollover? To avoid creating backing indices that are too big..

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I have been going back and forth for this. For ILM it's easy because it's part of the policy, for data stream lifecycle, I would suggest that if we really think that it should be less maybe we should set it to something less. Right?

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You mean, update the default? We can do that at a later point, but what about older versions, or ILM configurations with existing rollover overrides? It could still help to suggest a best practice here.

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Yes, we could update the default, that would apply on all version unless the user chose to overwrite it. I restructure it a bit so we can have ILM focused recommendations. But if we think it should be reduced, we should consider updating the default for DLM as well.

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Let's file a tracking issue for this, so that we don't forget.

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gmarouli commented Oct 6, 2025

Can we wait for Marci to submit her update, then port these tips to the new structure?

It is created on the updated downsampling page. Right?

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The downsampling operation runs over a whole index, so in certain cases downsampling can increase the load on a cluster. One of the ways to reduce that load is to reduce the size of the index; this way you can have smaller downsampling tasks that get better distributed. You can achieve that either by reducing the number of primary shards or by using the `max_primary_shard_docs` to reduce the number of docs in a single shard. There is already an upper limit enforced by elasticsearch for `max_primary_shard_docs` which is 200 million, but reducing it to 180 or 150 million could be beneficial. Please experiment and monitor the effect of such changes since their impact varies depending on the specific use cases.

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Nit: I'd move this above reducing index size, it's more important iiuc.

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