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Will it be a new view or new card or toggle on the card?
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New view eventually |
Co-authored-by: Norbert Rittel <[email protected]>
src/panels/config/energy/dialogs/dialog-energy-grid-flow-settings.ts
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…ngs.ts Co-authored-by: Aidan Timson <[email protected]>
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After some testing and discussion, I've changed it to a single bidirectional power sensor |
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First PR to use this data: #27501 |
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As we're at the grid metering point here, negative values aren't necessarily equal to (solar) production when a battery system is involved.
So this should be called "feed-in" instead.
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You assume that Mixing terms, such as consumption - "feed-in" would only cause confusion IMO, usable "pairs" should be something like:
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As an electrical engineer myself I prefer to only use production where you actually produce energy, that is in your PV panels. Otherwise this is all totally confusing and misleading. Even without a battery-system the simple equation is:
Where consumption is positive and feed-in is negative. If you add a battery system it becomes:
If you discharge the battery this term becomes negative. In German we generally use these terms as
With that mixed use in English translating all this correctly is quite a hassle. |
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Not a fan of "feed-in". Maybe "export", idk |
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Moved grid power @piitaya |
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Feed-in is common in English for the tariff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff You can use Grid import / export , that would be a good choice, too. This way the house consumption is also decoupled as I outlined in the equations above.
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As an electrical engineer myself, I actually use import/export in my custom integration. But you see, it's a matter of personal preference, as none of the proposed nomenclatures are factually incorrect. |
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The goal is to make this also understandable to non engineers. With that in mind how about the latest update - "Positive values indicate using electricity from the grid, negative values indicate exporting electricity" ? |
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With time-variable tariffs, it becomes more and more interesting to completely decouple your house consumption from the grid import in the winter by charging your house battery during off-peak hours. This is one area where Home Assistant will play a big role in the future, replacing very pricey Home Energy Management Systems (HEMS). So we should try to use the most accurate terms here which should also be followed by the integrations. |
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@MindFreeze That sounds OK, I would add "to the grid" at the end: "Positive values indicate using electricity from the grid, negative values indicate exporting electricity to the grid." |
Totally agree, this is main purpose of my production instance of HA + my custom integration for managing charging during hours with cheapest electricity throughout the day. But this is OT. 😉 And changes LG. 👍
Then I'm for any of these:
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Proposed change
Add power inputs next to all the energy inputs in energy dashboard. No power graphs yet. Lets add the config options first
Core PR home-assistant/core#153809
Type of change
Example configuration
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If user exposed functionality or configuration variables are added/changed: