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# working group meeting on 2021-04-27
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## Participants
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* Zhiqian Xia
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* Tom Stellard
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* Wei Wu - PLCT Lab
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* Anton Korobeynikov
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* Mike Edwards
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* Azhar
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* Zhiqian Xia
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## Agenda
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Agenda items taken from the [backlog](https://github.com/llvm/llvm-iwg/projects/1)
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### Epic: improve infrastructure documentation [#14](https://github.com/llvm/llvm-iwg/issues/14)
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* 2 issues resolved
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* a few more in progress
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### Hiring for infrastructure role #27
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see comment on issue #27
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### Formalize the working group #22
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* see comment on issue #22
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* created new issue #34 to document our current learnings
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### Decide on incoming requests
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There were some requests for our involvement recently. We should decide which of
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these we want to work on:
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* how do we decide on requests?
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* If we can't handle it right away and if a meaningful request: try to find a
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vendor with the right expertise to do it.
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* Major question: Can we find enough volunteers to take on the topic?
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* Until we have a better solution: discuss on a case by case basis.
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* Mac-Hardware for pre-merge testing #32
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* details are on the mailing list
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* Christian and Mike are requesting quotes for the hardware
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* Mike will then propose this to the foundation
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* Mailman - investigate long term solutions #6
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* volunteers so far: Christian Kühnel, Mike Edwards, Chris Lattner, Kit Barton
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* [initial
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research](https://github.com/ChristianKuehnel/llvm-iwg/blob/Discourse/Discourse_research.md)
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on the migration
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* proposal: have this sub-group of 4 work on the issue
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* ask for objections on mailing list
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* Discontinue code reviews on the mailing list #31
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* out of time, postponed to next meeting
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### other topics
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* Screen sharing is not working in the Zoom meeting. Christian to talk to Tanya.
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* #32 sparked a longer discussion around our build systems
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* We all agree that we should be working to reducing the number of different
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CI systems in place. Users and maintainers should only have to deal with
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one platform.
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* This would be a major migration project, it's unclear today how we can
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gather a large enough group to work on this.
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* We should decide on where we want to proceed with pre-merge testing. Today
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we do not really have an agreed roadmap for it.
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* Maybe: Create a dashboard to show contributors how their commit progresses
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through the different CI pipelines.
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* Maybe change the way Buildbot is set up today to speed up config changes:
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Only configure some parts on the server, take the rest of the configuration
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from the repo.
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* For prototyping new features: We should help the community members pick the
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right technology stack to implement/demonstrate new ideas to reduce the amount
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of different solutions in place.

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