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@Timmmm Timmmm commented Aug 17, 2025

For Rust users (who are likely the main audience for this page), pointing them to the Zulip server isn't helpful because it's only for development of Rust itself. Therefore I added a link to the Discord "server" (note, Discord uses the term "server" in a stupid way; it's like a Slack workspace).

This is not an official Rust project but it's likely what most users are looking for so adding it here is a pragmatic and useful choice. I described it as "unofficial".

This link is especially helpful because there are two Rust Discover servers, but one of them is defunct (in a way that is annoying to discover). Unfortunately it still tops Google results sometimes depending on what you search for.

Finally, I think the layout could probably be cleaned up by having it split in two:

  • For users: [User Forum], [Discord]
  • For Rust language developers: [Internals Forum] [Zulip] [Teams]

But that's a bigger change and I haven't done it here.

For Rust users (who are likely the main audience for this page), pointing them to the Zulip server isn't helpful because it's only for development of Rust itself. Therefore I added a link to the Discord "server" (note, Discord uses the term "server" in a stupid way; it's like a Slack workspace).

This is not an official Rust project but it's likely what most users are looking for so adding it here is a pragmatic and useful choice. I described it as "unofficial".

This link is especially helpful because there are two Rust Discover servers, but one of them is defunct (in a way that is annoying to discover). Unfortunately it still tops Google results sometimes depending on what you search for.

Finally, I think the layout could probably be cleaned up by having it split in two:

* For users: [User Forum], [Discord]
* For Rust language developers: [Internals Forum] [Zulip] [Teams]

But that's a bigger change and I haven't done it here.
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Timmmm commented Aug 17, 2025

PS: I have no idea how to test this or deal with translations, sorry. I'm guessing you don't make people learn 15 languages before they can make a PR? :-D

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senekor commented Aug 17, 2025

Sorry, we do not link to unofficial spaces where we don't control the enforcement of our code of conduct.

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Timmmm commented Aug 17, 2025

Why? That's not very helpful. Linking to somewhere doesn't mean you have to control the content of the target.

And you do have links to Bluesky, Mastodon and Youtube, plus third party tools like Zed. You don't control the enforcement of comments on Bluesky.

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senekor commented Aug 17, 2025

We do control what is published on our official Bluesky, Mastodon and Youtube accounts. We have no official presence on Discord.

Zed is an editor, we don't have to worry about users of Zed being confronted with code of conduct violations "in Zed".

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Timmmm commented Aug 17, 2025

We do control what is published on our official Bluesky

Including replies? In any case I still don't understand why you feel the need to have full control over the Code of Conduct of something that is merely linked to? That seems... incongruous to how links work.

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Fundamentally the standard expectations for "discussion forum/server" vs "social media website" are different.

We've had longstanding policy about being careful when linking to unofficial spaces. If you would like to change this, I suggest bringing it up with the council.

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