@@ -41,7 +41,6 @@ topics:
4141- career growth
4242transcript :
4343- header : Episode Opening & Guest Welcome
44- - header : Episode Opening & Guest Welcome
4544- line : This week, we'll talk about recruiting data engineers. We have a special guest
4645 today Nicolas. Nicolas is a technical recruiter who is hiring for a wide variety
4746 of engineering and AI roles. He worked for many years as an in-house recruiter
@@ -54,7 +53,6 @@ transcript:
5453 time : ' 1:12'
5554 who : Nicolas
5655- header : Guest Background and Career Path
57- - header : Guest Background and Career Path
5856- line : Before we go into our main topic of recruiting data engineers, let's start
5957 with your background. Can you tell us about your career journey so far?
6058 sec : 75
@@ -86,7 +84,6 @@ transcript:
8684 time : ' 3:10'
8785 who : Alexey
8886- header : Onfido Role & European Hiring Footprint
89- - header : Onfido Role & European Hiring Footprint
9087- line : We have the UK. Then we are hiring in France, Portugal, Netherlands and Germany.
9188 Maybe more soon, we hope.
9289 sec : 192
@@ -99,7 +96,6 @@ transcript:
9996 time : ' 3:26'
10097 who : Alexey
10198- header : ' Roles Recruited: Data, ML & Research Spectrum'
102- - header : ' Roles Recruited: Data, ML & Research Spectrum'
10399- line : Yeah. For now, we are hiring for mostly I would say, intermediate to senior
104100 levels in terms of profiles. Literally I have a bit of everything. I do hire backend,
105101 frontends, I do DevOps, I do security engineering, I do research. I also work
@@ -111,7 +107,6 @@ transcript:
111107 time : ' 3:40'
112108 who : Nicolas
113109- header : European Tech Market Differences
114- - header : European Tech Market Differences
115110- line : You mentioned that you are looking for candidates in four countries – the
116111 UK, France, Portugal and Germany. I'm wondering how different are the candidates
117112 that you find in these countries and processes? Is it the same or different? Did
@@ -136,7 +131,6 @@ transcript:
136131 time : ' 6:02'
137132 who : Alexey
138133- header : Borderless Recruitment and Competition Dynamics
139- - header : Borderless Recruitment and Competition Dynamics
140134- line : Yeah, but it depends. Because now you have companies hiring across different
141135 countries, you have less and less borders, especially in Europe. In the end, for
142136 example, when you hire within the EU, whether you hire for example, in Germany,
@@ -147,13 +141,12 @@ transcript:
147141 time : ' 6:15'
148142 who : Nicolas
149143- header : ' Episode Focus: Why Data Engineering Matters Now'
150- - header : ' Episode Focus: Why Data Engineering Matters Now'
151- - line : Okay. Interesting. Actually, the reason I reached out to you a couple of weeks
144+ - line : ' Okay. Interesting. Actually, the reason I reached out to you a couple of weeks
152145 ago and invited you to this podcast is because we had a different podcast episode
153146 that was about hiring data professionals – where we talked to Alicia, who was
154147 a guest here – but we mostly talked about data scientists. Then some people reached
155- out to me saying, “ Hey, that was a cool episode, but we want to hear more about
156- data engineers." So here we go.
148+ out to me saying, " Hey, that was a cool episode, but we want to hear more about
149+ data engineers." So here we go.'
157150 sec : 419
158151 time : ' 6:59'
159152 who : Alexey
@@ -202,8 +195,7 @@ transcript:
202195 time : ' 7:48'
203196 who : Nicolas
204197- header : Data Science Misconceptions and Data Quality Dependence
205- - header : Data Science Misconceptions and Data Quality Dependence
206- - line : I think data science was quite commonly romanticized like, “This is the perfect
198+ - line : I think data science was quite commonly romanticized like, "This is the perfect
207199 job where all you do is machine learning.”
208200 sec : 666
209201 time : ' 11:06'
@@ -235,7 +227,6 @@ transcript:
235227 time : ' 12:27'
236228 who : Nicolas
237229- header : Rising Demand for Data Engineering and Modern Tooling
238- - header : Rising Demand for Data Engineering and Modern Tooling
239230- line : Have you observed a spike of interest in data engineering roles recently?
240231 I am judging from the blog posts that I see on the internet. For a year, maybe
241232 a bit longer, I've seen posts on Hacker News, and in general, Reddit and on social
@@ -268,7 +259,6 @@ transcript:
268259 time : ' 13:50'
269260 who : Nicolas
270261- header : ' Recruiter Technical Literacy: Big-Picture Knowledge'
271- - header : ' Recruiter Technical Literacy: Big-Picture Knowledge'
272262- line : I'm wondering, as a recruiter who recruits for data engineering roles, and
273263 in general, for technical roles – how much of this stuff do you need to know?
274264 You seem to know quite a lot already, because we're talking about quite technical
@@ -303,7 +293,6 @@ transcript:
303293 time : ' 16:37'
304294 who : Nicolas
305295- header : ' Hiring Challenges: Titles, Experience Mismatch, Demand'
306- - header : ' Hiring Challenges: Titles, Experience Mismatch, Demand'
307296- line : In your opinion, what are the main difficulties? What are the main challenges
308297 of hiring data engineers?
309298 sec : 1127
@@ -329,7 +318,6 @@ transcript:
329318 time : ' 18:56'
330319 who : Nicolas
331320- header : Evaluating Transferable Experience from Software/BI Roles
332- - header : Evaluating Transferable Experience from Software/BI Roles
333321- line : I imagine that you get a bunch of applications – or you reach out to a bunch
334322 of people – who do not yet have the title of data engineer in their portfolio,
335323 like a data scientist, BI engineer, software engineer. It seems like they're doing
@@ -359,7 +347,6 @@ transcript:
359347 time : ' 21:26'
360348 who : Nicolas
361349- header : ' Expectations by Level: Junior → Senior Responsibilities'
362- - header : ' Expectations by Level: Junior → Senior Responsibilities'
363350- line : Do you think there are a lot of differences between hiring junior data engineers,
364351 middle level data engineers, and senior engineers? [cross-talk]
365352 sec : 1375
@@ -408,7 +395,6 @@ transcript:
408395 time : ' 25:53'
409396 who : Alexey
410397- header : Typical Interview Process and Level-Based Assessments
411- - header : Typical Interview Process and Level-Based Assessments
412398- line : Yeah. So the goal in the recruitment process – you have a framework. The process
413399 is the same but, of course, you do not expect the same whether you're talking
414400 to a junior or a senior engineer. For junior candidates, yes. What I've seen in
@@ -454,7 +440,6 @@ transcript:
454440 time : ' 26:38'
455441 who : Nicolas
456442- header : ' Career Switchers: Internships, Projects, and Focused Skills'
457- - header : ' Career Switchers: Internships, Projects, and Focused Skills'
458443- line : There is a related question. We talked about different levels – talking about
459444 people who are switching to data engineering. What do you look for in these people?
460445 I think you did mention one thing – for people who are just starting their career
@@ -466,8 +451,7 @@ transcript:
466451 time : ' 30:39'
467452 who : Alexey
468453- header : ' Resume Essentials: SQL, Python, Problems & Outcomes'
469- - header : ' Resume Essentials: SQL, Python, Problems & Outcomes'
470- - line : Yeah, exactly. There’s several things. First, I would say that it helps a
454+ - line : Yeah, exactly. There's several things. First, I would say that it helps a
471455 lot if you have done internships, for example. That's a good way to start. Now,
472456 there are a lot of online trainings coming up in resumes, whether it's on their
473457 own, with different technologies – the basics and data engineering use cases.
@@ -507,7 +491,6 @@ transcript:
507491 time : ' 31:16'
508492 who : Nicolas
509493- header : ' Transition Strategy: Team Structure and Role Selection'
510- - header : ' Transition Strategy: Team Structure and Role Selection'
511494- line : Yeah, so speaking of titles, you just mentioned that you don't really care
512495 about them. But I imagine that right now, many data scientists, many software
513496 engineers, BI engineers, data analysts, see this interest in data engineering
@@ -560,7 +543,6 @@ transcript:
560543 time : ' 36:01'
561544 who : Nicolas
562545- header : ' Cloud Fundamentals: Tool-Agnostic Conceptual Knowledge'
563- - header : ' Cloud Fundamentals: Tool-Agnostic Conceptual Knowledge'
564546- line : How important is it for data engineers to know cloud tools like AWS, Google
565547 Cloud Platform, and others? Most of the jobs, at least from what I see in Berlin,
566548 require that to some extent. For the rest of Europe, is that also what you see?
@@ -589,7 +571,6 @@ transcript:
589571 time : ' 40:06'
590572 who : Nicolas
591573- header : ' Infrastructure & DevOps Skills: When They Matter'
592- - header : ' Infrastructure & DevOps Skills: When They Matter'
593574- line : Then the question goes on, "How important is it to know infrastructure tools?"
594575 By this, I think they mean tools like Kubernetes or setting up databases, or whatever
595576 we use for data pipelines, like Kubernetes, Terraform. Is it something you also
@@ -626,7 +607,6 @@ transcript:
626607 time : ' 43:57'
627608 who : Nicolas
628609- header : ' Interview Prep: Research Company and Explain Projects Clearly'
629- - header : ' Interview Prep: Research Company and Explain Projects Clearly'
630610- line : Yeah. Another question, "What would you recommend that job applicants do before
631611 talking to a recruiter or a hiring manager?"
632612 sec : 2675
@@ -674,7 +654,6 @@ transcript:
674654 time : ' 47:43'
675655 who : Alexey
676656- header : Targeted Applications vs. Spray-and-Pray Approach
677- - header : Targeted Applications vs. Spray-and-Pray Approach
678657- line : Exactly. I always ask this question. [laughs] I always ask, "What do you know
679658 about the company? Just tell me everything that you know, and if there's something
680659 that is not true. Then I will complete the gap and give you more details.” Because
@@ -711,7 +690,6 @@ transcript:
711690 time : ' 49:37'
712691 who : Nicolas
713692- header : ' Hiring Without Degrees: Skills, Projects, Continuous Learning'
714- - header : ' Hiring Without Degrees: Skills, Projects, Continuous Learning'
715693- line : What would you say about people without a formal computer science degree?
716694 Would you hire somebody without a formal degree, but someone that has a set of
717695 data engineering projects?
@@ -761,7 +739,6 @@ transcript:
761739 time : ' 53:19'
762740 who : Nicolas
763741- header : ' Standout Project Examples: First Pipelines & Privacy Work'
764- - header : ' Standout Project Examples: First Pipelines & Privacy Work'
765742- line : So, you mentioned projects like 10 times by now. Do you maybe remember some
766743 of the projects that really stood out, where you thought "Wow! Cool! This candidate
767744 is definitely passing my screen into the next step."
@@ -780,7 +757,6 @@ transcript:
780757 time : ' 54:41'
781758 who : Nicolas
782759- header : ' Portfolio & GitHub: Shareable Work and Storytelling'
783- - header : ' Portfolio & GitHub: Shareable Work and Storytelling'
784760- line : So it's not about the portfolio. It's not about your public GitHub profile
785761 with all the projects you’ve worked on – it's more about what projects you can
786762 talk about to the recruiter and explain it concisely in a way that any non-technical
@@ -813,7 +789,6 @@ transcript:
813789 time : ' 56:22'
814790 who : Nicolas
815791- header : ' Industry Fit: Domain Knowledge for Regulated Data'
816- - header : ' Industry Fit: Domain Knowledge for Regulated Data'
817792- line : There is a question from Dan. The question is about switching from one industry
818793 to another. I'm wondering, do you actually look at the industry where the candidate
819794 works in? Or do you care mostly about "Okay, this person is already a data engineer
@@ -859,8 +834,7 @@ transcript:
859834 time : ' 59:59'
860835 who : Nicolas
861836- header : ' Follow-up Resources: Webinars and Further Reading'
862- - header : ' Follow-up Resources: Webinars and Further Reading'
863- - line : ' [laughs] I’m the one who should be doing this. So thanks a lot for doing
837+ - line : ' [laughs] I'' m the one who should be doing this. So thanks a lot for doing
864838 that.'
865839 sec : 3659
866840 time : ' 1:00:59'
@@ -881,7 +855,6 @@ transcript:
881855 time : ' 1:01:34'
882856 who : Nicolas
883857- header : Episode Close and Final Tips
884- - header : Episode Close and Final Tips
885858- line : Yeah, for everyone who is going to have Easter holidays – enjoy your holidays.
886859 Yeah, it was nice talking to you. Thanks, everyone for tuning in, for asking questions.
887860 That was amazing. Have a great rest of your day.
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1007980 startOffset : 3698
1008981 url : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hylxiu4VGTo&t=3698
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