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Web conference notes, 2025.09.25 (MDS Working Group)

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MDS Working Group

Agenda

MDS 2.1 Consensus Checkpoint

Agenda

  1. Intro and announcements (5 min)
  2. Presentation - MDS for Cargo Bike Delivery - Portland PBOT
  3. MDS 2.1 Consensus Checkpoint
    1. Breakout Groups

WGSC Meeting Organizers

  • Host: Vlad Gallegos, LADOT
  • Facilitator: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
  • Preparation: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
  • Outreach: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
  • Note taker: Michael Schnuerle, OMF

Action Items and Decisions

  1. Support Delivery of goods, food, packages, freight. Created a discussion area, leave your needs and data requirements.
  2. Use of MDS for Transit (beyond fixed route) - passenger counts, boardings, etc?
  3. Using Incidents to track violations and enforcement. Other incident types needed?
  4. How can MDS support infrastructure issue recording, like sidewalk, curb cut, signal issues? Need to start detailed discussion.

Minutes

Notes

  • Over 200 commercial mobility service providers send MDS and CDS to cities, and receive it from cities.
  • These companies operate in over 1,000 cities in dozens of countries around the world.

MDS for Cargo Bike Delivery - Portland PBOT

  • Electric box truck bikes
  • SMART curb collab, tech side digital back end (B-line)
  • MDS allowed views of trips in and around delivery area, demand
  • Real time availability for companies in the ecosystem, working with small companies now, larger ones soon.
  • INRIX already has relationship with many vehicle operators to get that info to them using MDS Policy and CDS Curbs
  • Delivery data using MDS and CDS is much like data coming in from micromobility
  • Useful for infrastructure and bike lanes, river crossings, lane widths, intersections, etc
  • Some vendors didn't use CDS right, but corrected that with city and vendors like Ride Report and INRIX devs
  • 70% of users in the delivery zones were not allowed, like Uber, Door Dash, small companies, etc.
  • Brought CDS push APIs to the next release based on needs identified in the pilot
  • Over 2 billion MDS trips known to be tracked globally.
  • Being part of the OMF from the beginning has really helped build this ecosystem
  • helps Portland see everything in the same way: scooters, bikeshare, car share, cargo delivery
  • From a data operator perspective it makes it easier to integrate and use and visualize data.
  • INRIX providing MDS as a service rather than into custom specs, building to it

MDS 2.1 Consensus Checkpoint

MDS 2.1 Major Features

  1. Incidents and Crashes: New endpoint to capture unplanned stops, remote takeovers, ADS dis/engagement, tip overs, harsh braking/acceleration, near misses, vandalism, theft, crashes and details where possible for all Modes
  2. Real-time Policy: Better real-time options and a new push option. Also a new distance travelled rule
  3. Fixed Routes: Support for bus/shuttle/fixed route/fleets and connecting to GTFS trips, stops, and schedules
  4. AV and Robotaxi details: Clearer that MDS fully supports AVs and robotaxis, both sending and receiving data, and special stopping events
  5. Car Share Additions: new car types and vehicle attributes and properties

MDS 2.1 Additional Features

General

  • Move Stops, Metrics, Jurisdiction out of Beta
  • External references to connect to other specs/docs

Provider/Agency

  • Add lifecycle operations service start and end to Vehicles
  • Clarify start, stop, cancel, end events
  • Clarify relationship between Vehicles and Vehicles/status
  • Multiple /vehicles requests at once

Policy

  • Clarify Policy can require Authorization
  • Add geographies filter to Policy Requirements

Delivery

  • Support for general food, goods, package delivery

Breakout Group ideas

LA, Blue Systems. OMF

  • Real time policy improvements
  • LA use of MDS for fixed routes
  • Bikeshare operators moving to MDS

Serve, LA, Toronto, Chicago, Helsingborg

  • Curb allocation using MDS to know needs
  • Help with infrastructure like curb cuts, light timing
  • Incidents
  • Right of way specifications

LA, Calgary, Sweden, Populus

  • AVs on MDS
  • Bikeshare needs and MDS integration
  • Enforcement and violations knowledge
  • transit integration and communication. Transfers between systems. Back to source systems
  • NYC universal transit, discount programs

Chat

  • 00:06:21 Bern Grush: Michael, Bern Grush (Urban Robotics Foundation), here. I apologize that I must leave at 12:29.
  • 00:06:34 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Hi all! Great to see you. Thanks for joining!
  • 00:06:44 Raphael Dumas (City of Toronto): Raphael Dumas, Team Lead Data Operations, City of Toronto Transportation Services
  • 00:06:45 Andrew Sedor (City of Calgary): Andrew Sedor, City of Calgary
  • 00:06:58 Sean Wiedel - Chicago DOT: Sean Wiedel - Chicago DOT
  • 00:07:02 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Agenda page for today with links: https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/wiki/Web-conference-notes,-2025.09.25-(MDS-Working-Group)
  • 00:07:19 Steph Piperno, DRCOG: Hello! Steph Piperno, Denver Regional Council of Governments
  • 00:07:22 Robert White: Robert White - Nashville DOT
  • 00:08:25 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): And more than 2 Billion shared mobility trips have been processed via MDS globally!
  • 00:08:59 Halina Do-Linh (LADOT): Reacted to "And more than 2 Bill..." with 🎉
  • 00:09:48 Steph Piperno, DRCOG: Reacted to "And more than 2 Bill..." with 🎉
  • 00:09:53 Raphael Dumas (City of Toronto): Reacted to "And more than 2 Bill..." with 🎉
  • 00:10:27 Alex Demisch (SFMTA): Reacted to "And more than 2 Bill…" with 🎉
  • 00:10:52 Melrose Pan (ORNL): Reacted to "Robert White - Nashv..." with 👋
  • 00:11:22 Aylene McCallum (OMF): OMF Members - please don't forget to register for CoMotion LA (with OMF Summit programming integrated into the event) using your complimentary tickets as an OMF member. Feel free to reach out to me if you missed the instruction email I sent out earlier this month. Each OMF Commercial Member receives 2 complimentary tickets
  • 00:12:06 Aylene McCallum (OMF): And as a reminder all public agencies can register for CoMotionLA for free - OMF membership is not required (but encouraged!) :)
  • 00:12:30 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Hoping you all will join us next week Tuesday for a webinar on emerging uses of MDS…
  • Seattle on real-time digital policy
  • DC - crash/incident data
  • Chicago - sidewalk robots
  • Philly - ROW digitization
  • Please join and spread the word!
  • https://www.eventbrite.com/e/emerging-mds-applications-in-the-right-of-way-tickets-1669156525099?aff=oddtdtcreator
  • 00:12:31 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Robert White - Nashv..." with 👋
  • 00:13:45 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Hoping you all will ..." with 🌟
  • 00:14:03 Raphael Dumas (City of Toronto): Reacted to "Hoping you all will ..." with 🌟
  • 00:17:54 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "OMF Members - please..." with 🏔️
  • 00:18:11 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "And as a reminder al..." with ✅
  • 00:20:24 Michael Schwartz (INRIX): This is how many of INRIX’s Enterprise parking customers use our APIs — looking for available spaces near where their vehicles are
  • 00:22:41 Aylene McCallum (OMF): This is so interesting!!
  • 00:24:44 Michael Schwartz (INRIX): As you can see from the bullet, some of those things that were outside the spec (e.g., push API for CDS Events) are now going to be part of the spec
  • 00:25:02 Michael Schwartz (INRIX): Part of what makes projects like this interesting is we are pushing the boundaries of specs like CDS and MDS and then making them part of the standard as it grows/evolves
  • 00:25:37 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Part of what makes p..." with 👍
  • 00:27:33 jacob sherman, portland (he/him): Reacted to "And more than 2 Bill..." with 🎉
  • 00:27:33 Matt Davis. (Populus): Populus has been getting CDS via push for quite a while as well.
  • 00:27:45 Michael Schwartz (INRIX): Reacted to "Populus has been get..." with ❤️
  • 00:28:06 jacob sherman, portland (he/him): Here's a copy of our pilot report for anyone who's interested: Zero-Emission Delivery Zones Pilot Executive Report | Portland.gov
  • 00:28:54 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Here's a copy of our..." with 👍
  • 00:29:28 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): List of some of the 1,000 cities and 200 mobility service providers known to be using MDS: https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/mds-users/
  • 00:31:06 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Fantastic feedback loop that makes the specs better! Props! 🥰
  • 00:31:28 jacob sherman, portland (he/him): Reacted to "Fantastic feedback l..." with 👍
  • 00:32:56 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): MDS 2.1 release plan: https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/governance/wiki/Release-2.1.0
  • 00:35:15 Aylene McCallum (OMF): Reacted to "Part of what makes p..." with 👍
  • 00:35:16 Aylene McCallum (OMF): Reacted to "Populus has been get..." with ❤️
  • 00:39:37 Vladimir Gallegos LADOT: Reacted to "Michael, Bern Grush ..." with 👍🏼
  • 01:06:02 Vignesh Ram (Serve Robotics): Unfortunately have to hop for another call. Thank you all!
  • 01:06:40 Anna Ward (Blue Systems): True that @Vladimir Gallegos LADOT!
  • 01:07:18 Andrew Sedor (City of Calgary): Thank you!
  • 01:07:21 Magnus Ihrefors - Helsingborg: Thank you all, very interesting!
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