planning seattle 2017

Seattle F2F Jan 11-13 2017

• Host: Microsoft
• Location: South Lake Union Discovery Center
• Address: 101 Westlake Avenue North, Seattle, WA 98109, US
• Dates: Wednesday–Friday, Jan 11-13 2017
• Times: 08:30 doors open, 09:00 meeting start, 18:00 meeting end (each day)
• Weather: ⁰C, ⁰F
• Transit: From the airport you can take Link rail to downtown, with Westlake being the stop closest to the venue

Minutes

• 2017-01-11 Part I: FX Breakout - Transforms, Whitespace in a custom property in a variable reference, Geometry Interfaces
• 2017-01-11 Part II: Text Breakout - Hyphenation, Text Decoration
• 2017-01-11 Part III: Text Breakout - Inline Layout & Initial Letter
• 2017-01-11 Part IV: CSS Color
• 2017-01-11 Part V: Backgrounds
• 2017-01-11 Part VI: Writings Modes, CSS Tables, Values & Units 4
• [2017-01-12 Part I: FX Breakout - Transforms css-transforms]
• [2017-01-12 Part II: Text Breakout - Text Decoration, Step-Sizing/Rhythm [css-text-decoration] css-rhythm]
• [2017-01-12 Part III: Text Breakout - Line Grid, Block Step Sizing [css-line-grid] css-rhythm]
• [2017-01-12 Part IV: Font color palettes, Font rendering controls, Font loading, Tokyo F2F css-fonts]
• [2017-01-12 Part V: CSS2.1, What can go to CR this quarter?, WPT, CSS UI 3 [CSS21] CSS-UI-3]
• [2017-01-13 Part I: Grid css-grid]
• [2017-01-13 Part II: Scrolling, Sizing [css-overflow] css-sizing]
• [2017-01-13 Part III: Fetch and CSS Interactions, EXI for CSS, Display Module css-inline]
• [2017-01-13 Part IV: Logical Properties, in content, SVG Integration, CSS 2.1, Snapshot [css-logical-props] [css-content] [CSS21] CSS-2017]

Adjacent meetings

• 2017-01-10 Houdini in Seattle

• 2017-01-13 6:25am November Project Seattle (outdoors exercise/workout) at Lake Union Park

Group Dinner

Jan 12, 2017, 7:00pm at Tanakasan

Place

• South Lake Union Discovery Center - 101 Westlake Avenue North, Seattle, WA, 98109, United States

Participants

Please, put your name in this table if you plan to participate (alphabetical order):

Name	Arrival	Departure	Hotel	Flight info and notes
Alan Stearns	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Andrey Rybka	10 Jan	13 Jan	Hyatt Place Downtown	UA 1792 / 5355
Bert Bos	9 Jan 11:25	14 Jan 12:58	Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown	DL143 / AF3653
Brad Werth	TBD	TBD	TBD	observer from Mozilla
Dave Cramer	10 Jan	15 Jan	Hyatt	UA1641 / UA419
fantasai	7 Jan	13 Jan	AirBnB	AS via EWR
Florian Rivoal	10 Jan	14 Jan	Airbnb	KE728+KE019 / KE020+KE271
Francois Remy	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Geoffrey Sneddon	7 Jan	14 Jan	Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown	FI431+FI681 / FI680+FI430
Greg Whitworth	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Hiroshi Sakakibara	9 Jan 10:20	14 Jan 12:20	Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown	NH0178 / NH0177
Ian Kilpatrick	TBD	TBD	TBD	TBD
Jack Moffitt	TBD	Jan 12	TBD	observer from Mozilla / Servo
Jen Simmons	9 Jan	15 Jan	TBD	Delta
Jet Villegas	TBD	TBD	TBD	TBD
L. David Baron	9 Jan 20:48	13 Jan 20:45	TBD	UA1688 / AS300
Melanie Richards	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Myles C. Maxfield	TBD	TBD	TBD	TBD
Peter Linss	9 Jan 18:01	14 Jan 12:01	AirBnB	UA5475 / UA5618
Rachel Andrew	9 Jan	15 Jan	TBD	out BA193 and BA2410, back BA48
Rachel Nabors	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Rossen Atanassov	n/a	n/a	home	n/a
Shane Stephens	TBD	TBD	TBD	TBD
Simon Fraser	9 Jan	13 Jan	Hotel Andra	Alaska 393 / Alaska 336
Simon Pieters	9 Jan	13 Jan	La Quinta Inn & Suites Seattle Downtown	FI 307 + FI 681 / FI 680 + FI 306
Steve Zilles	10 Jan	13 Jan	TBD	TBD
Tab Atkins	tbd	tbd	Airbnb	tbd
Tantek Çelik	2017-01-10	2017-01-14	La Quinta Inn & Suites Seattle Downtown	UA 5727 / UA 294

Regrets: glazou, Jihye Hong, Brian Birtles

Topics

GitHub issues from Agenda ftf Label should be incorporated below

Wednesday

Morning Track FX

• Transforms Level 1: All Open Issues
  • [css-transforms] Individual transform "scale" has interop issue
  • Making transform-style actually work
• CSS Variables
  • Whitespaces in serialization of custom property value (jet)
• Geometry Interfaces (smfr)

Morning Track Text

• [css-text] Should 'hyphens: auto' work if lang="" is not declared?
• CSS Text Decoration L3: All Open Issues
  • Level 4?
    • [css-text-decor] selective toggling in the text-decoration-skip property
    • [css-text-decor] Text underlines' positions cannot be fine-tuned
    • [css-text-decor] No way to set the underline width/thickness
• CSS Inline open issues (dauwhe)
  • initial-letter in-flow or out-of-flow (preferred)? (jet)
  • how to make block with initial letter taller (dauwhe)
  • initial-letter and float on same element (dauwhe)
  • relationship of initial-letter and float (dauwhe)
  • initial-letter line shortened when floats present (dauwhe)

Afternoon

• 10 min per breakout summary
• css-color:
  • What happens to rgb() etc with Working Color Spaces? a.k.a how are Working spaces working? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/481
  • Colorspaces and blending - when we can dictate working color space, what are impl plans to actually support blending in those spaces? (tab)
  • Computed and used values for values: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/871 (Florian)
  • Interpolating between color spaces https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/883
  • Animating to/from currentColor https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/873 (Florian)
  • Specification for DCI P3
• <position>
  • either adding to specs or removing from implementations background-repeat-x/y and mask-repeat-x/y (dbaron)
  • should we introduce a variant of <position> without 3-value syntax for tranform-origin etc.?
• CSS Writing Modes PR (koji)
• Publish new Working Draft of css-tables? (fremy)
• CSS Values and Units L4
  • Any other units people interested in adding?
  • Publish FPWD?

Thursday

Morning Track FX

• More Transforms issues?

Morning Track Text

• More text decoration issues?
• CSS Step Sizing (koji/fantasai)
  • FPWD?
  • Block height stepping idea.
• Line Grid: Propose a simplification to line-grid lvl 1 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/880 (Florian)

Afternoon

• Fonts
  • Font Color Palettes (myles)
  • moving css-font-display into the WG (dbaron)
• Meeting scheduling
  • Next F2F announcement (skk)
  • summer meeting location/dates?
  • Can we attempt 1 year-ish advance meeting planning (at least country/city and week) -t
• CSS2 maintenance process (continuing from 2017-01-04 telcon discussion of proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Dec/0015.html) -t
• What can we take to CR in Q1 (and 2017 in total)? (continuing from CRs in 2016 discussion from TPAC) -t
• csswg-test/web-platform-tests merge
  • Get an actual resolution to do the merge this month!
• CSS-UI: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Jan/0019.html (Florian)

Friday

• Grid
  • Implied Minimum Size of Grid Items
  • Percentages and intrinsic size
• Scrolling
  • overflow: Consider reserving space for scrollbars with some property(added on 21 Dec Telecon)
  • New feature - scroll-boundary-behavior (an extension of -ms-scroll-chaining)(added on 21 Dec Telecon)
• Sizing
  • Intrinsic Sizes inside Percentage Containers
  • CSS Sizing Level 3: remaining issues + CR?
  • [css-sizing] Intrinsic size of replaced elements incorrect
• CSS Display L3
  • Is root out-of-flow?
  • flow vs flow-root for table-cell/table-caption
  • display: contents vs replaced elements
  • display: contents vs counter scopes
  • display values for and
    
  • run-in vs ::first-letter
  • run-ins & interleaved abspos
  • Cut for immediate release? Proposed to defer display-or-not, release with run-in at-risk.
• CSS Generated and Replaced Content
  • content: insufficiently defined (dbaron)
  • content: insufficiently defined (dbaron)
• EXI4CSS - our feedback to the EXI WG
• CSS Fetch integration (dbaron)
• Logical Properties
  • getComputedStyle and logical properties https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/384 (dbaron)

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